No doubt, in the East, often a child learns of that relationship from his parents; and as he grows, he grows up with that idea in his mind. And for him this relation, whenever it may be established, it is not new. In the West there are many souls born with the tendency of a mureed, with the soul of a mureed, the have mureed's inclination, mureed's seeking. But as everything else around them, instead of giving that idea, tries to remove that idea from them, and they have to resist against it, it becomes necessary here for the Murshid to bring this subject before mureeds; whereas in the East no murshid would ever think of bringing this subject, for he knows that: how can it be otherwise?