I was very amused one day. A member who used to go from one society to another came to the Sufi Order from the Theosophical Society. This person had some influence in Holland. Therefore, her leaving of the Theosophical Society was very disappointing to many [of its] members. That was a tender spot in her heart also. After having come to the Sufi Order, she had a tender sympathy for the Theosophical Society. And Mrs. Besant was visiting The Hague. And she went with a guilty conscience to Mrs. Besant.