If the eyes are closed, do you think that the soul sees nothing? It sees. If the ears are closed, do you think that the soul hears nothing? It hears. This shows that it is the soul that sees and hears. In the meditative life by viewing the Ansar and Anvar a mureed realizes this fact that there are objects which, without the help of the eyes, the soul can see, and there are sounds which, without the ears, the soul can see, and there are sounds which, without the ears, it can hear.