And that is another intoxication which comes in; that is, the intoxication of one becomes so interested in things, one learns so much, all the nature of the atoms and the planets and the nature of the plants and the nature of human beings and the world is so fascinating the more one learns, and then, when one develops the spiritual knowledge and wants to find out, like Buddha, for example, the cause of existence, one feels like dismounting the whole mechanism and seeing how it all ticks. So that is a passion. It's a real fascination. A scientist in his laboratory working with all this organic and inorganic matter, and the physicist with all his gadgets, it's a real fascination, an intoxication!