Now I'm saying this, and I can become ill, and, of course, it isn't true to say that there are a lot of masters who have been ill. It is not true to say that a perfect being or a master cannot be ill. You shouldn't pass a judgment about things. There are a lot of factors. Perhaps one has to experience the suffering of the world in one's flesh, karmic participation in suffering . I don't subscribe to the theory that if people are ill it is because they're re-paying a karma. We talked about karma the other day and we said that that could be one reason; but there are other reasons, like the testing that one has to undergo, and the fact that one is sharing cosmic karma.